Purple Sparkle DIY kit (WildWes)

[WildWes]

Front view (2-16" kicks * 12" mounted tom * 2-14" floor toms * 14" snare * Yamaha cymbals)
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/kitpurple-front640.jpg

Rear View (DTX III module * Roland PM-3 system)
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/kitpurple-behind640.jpg

Bronze Glitter Glass 14" snare * Yamaha pedals
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/snare-pedals640.jpg

2-14" Pintech AX14 snares as floor toms (look familiar Ron? hahaha)
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/floor-toms-side640.jpg

[TAKnipe]

Wes, Although that is one of the sweetest kits I have ever see, your an artist when it comes to rack design. 10 out of 10 stars!!!!

[fignewton]

and that is how you do it :)

[ghostman]

very nice!!
that's a lot of cymbals.

[WildWes]

Thanks ghostman, fignewton and Tom.

hehehehehehe, now this was a lot of cymbals ghostman :-O
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/1above-back.jpg

[ghostman]

7, and 12.. only a diff of 5. but, the little ones make it LOOK like a lot more.
MMMMMMMMMath vs. optical illusion. :D

I miscounted first time.. so I edited..

[System:Critical]

Beautiful job! The red kit looks great too!

[WildWes]

Thanks S:C. Your green Tama kit is not too shabby either :-O WW

[Axe_Grinder]

I just absolutely love this kit! Nice job, Wes. I will say, I want more pictures. Especially of your rack setups. You truely have a gift when it comes to rack art. :D

[Hope Drums]

Damn fine kit! I agree, I'm just as impressed with the rack set-up as I am the kit! Well done!

[WildWes]

Thanks Ron and Brian. I'm really enjoying the larger drum sizes to play on. I've got another AX14 I might purprlize, stick where the 12" tom is and move the 12" tom to the left near the hi-hat (kinda like what I did on the red kit). Just depends if those larger sizes will fit without moving the hi-hat.

or

I still have the red Pintech (2-8's and 2-12's) drums that I'm trying to match with purple spray paint/glitter and possibly add to the kit. The photos show a piece of metal I've tried to match-up. It looks pretty close straight on, but a different shade of purple from a side shot. WW

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/purplematch-close.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/purplematch-far.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/purplematch-side.jpg

[Axe_Grinder]

How about pics of the man cave and the rack design? - lol

Too much... okay, forget I asked - :D


Looks great, Wes!

I nominate Wes as number one contender for rack art.

[Hope Drums]

I love the kicks. I'm building a kit for myself right now and was planning on doing a 16" kick. How deep are your shells? Where do the beaters hit? I was thinking of using one of the Gibraltar risers, but I'm seeing that you aren't using anything, so rethinking that!

Brian

[Hellfire]

Those two kits look really good. I think you might be able to get away with that spray paint for your pintechs. Maybe you could spray a darker purple on first and then spray the glitter purple on top of that. Just a thought.

[dschrammie]

Well...I don't know if I'd call it purple....I'm gonna go with Lilac.
Wait...do I lose my man-card if I know the difference between purple and lilac?
;)

Regardless, it's pretty friggin' sweet looking!

[WildWes]

Thanks guys on the comments of the purple (lilac?) kit.

dschrammie,

The color does change depending on how much light hits them and I'm thinking you should lose more than "man points" for knowing the difference - hahahaha. WW

Hellfire,

The pintechs are already painted red, so it will be a matter of finding the right purple spray. Right now I've collected about three variations I'm testing :-O WW

Brian,

The kicks are 10" x 16" with Pintech internals triggers. I used white Hart mesh for no other reason than to simulate a real colored head (Pintechs are fine). I do use Gibraltar risers on these kicks at their lowest level (about 3"). With the kicks elevated 3", my pedal beaters strike about 2" above the piezo foam. One other thing I added was about 2" of foam between the mesh head trigger bar (16" circle with a hole cut-out for the piezo foam). This helps to keep the double-taps away for me. WW

[WildWes]

I decided to match three Pintech drums to my purple sparkle wrap kit. The spray paint, sparkle glitter and clear coat were all acquired from Wal-Mart (the only store necessary to survive). The photos don't really do justice as to how well the glitter turned out in person, but it's a pretty close match to the purple sparkle wrap. I'll post photos of the entire kit this weekend once it's all set-up (here we go again - lol). WW

2-8" Pintechs next to purple sparkle wrap sample.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/Pintech8wrap.jpg
1-12" Pintech next to purple sparkle wrap sample.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/Pintech12wrap.jpg
3 Pintechs next to wrap sample and a red 12" Pintech drum.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/Pintech4all.jpg
12" Pintech mounted about a purple sparkle wrapped drum.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/Pintech12mounted.jpg

[Axe_Grinder]

That's wild, Wes. No pun intended. You truely have good eye. I know how hard a match like that can be.

[TAKnipe]

Spot On Wes, I love that Drum Kit. Great Match on the Pintech pads.

Do you think we can persuade you to do a "Paint your Pintech Tutorial" ? That would truly be an awesome DIY article. Thanks again for the pics they are awesome. :)

[OverLord]

Holy moley, that is some of the sweetest looking kit I have ever seen. Very ingenious. It almost makes me want a purple kit - almost. :D

[WildWes]

Thanks Michael, Tom and Ron. High praise from three who have custom/monster kits http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-music027.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

The hardest part to changing the color of metal drums is the patience to wait between coats http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-angry016.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

I still have a Pintech 12" red tom and 2-10" red kicks I need to do something with http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-shocked003.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

[CaTaPulT]

Excellent bit of work Wes, great color matching, I don't think anyone could come any closer than that for matching the Purple wrap on the acoustic conversion. Way cool! :)
Looking forward to seeing the finished kit.
Take care

Regards: >>>> Jack <<<<

[BobbyMck2]

Wes.... definitely the gentleman's dangly bits, video required though so we can see how it plays :)... oops need to clean the drool off the keyboard (yes it is drool, you filthy minded people) :)

[WildWes]

Thanks Jack and Bobby.

No video (don't own a camera) available and probably wouldn't be a pretty sight anyway. I'd have to angle it where you just saw my hands and I'd need to Pro Tool it to keep the bits and pieces I didn't screw-up LOL!

I plan on posting some photos tonight of the completed kit. I still didn't find a home for the PCY-10's, but still have plenty of inputs on the DTX II I'm chaining into the DTX III. I've got to work on that this weekend too from Jack's tutorial.

[WildWes]

Finally finished the three Pintechs to include on my purple sparkle kit. I also added another PCY-150 to the kit for a total of four (with two PCY-130's and one PCY-130s) and the DTXtreme II module.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/2purple-front.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/1purple-rear.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/4purple-tomsS.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/4purple-tomsS3.jpg

[CaTaPulT]

One word comes to mind.......
Exquisite! :)
Excellent looking kit Wes, you gotta be happy with how it turned out, you've built many great looking kits but this one is the ultimate! :)
Enjoy.
Take care

Regards: >>>> Jack <<<<

[TAKnipe]

I love the kit alot, one of my favorite features about this setup Wes is the ride cymbal position and the tom placement, very N.P. like. :)

I am trying to talk myself into this setup instead of the 3 plus 2 setup I currently use. You would think as muh as I adore the ride cymbal that I would naturally migrate to this natural position. Wes I hope you dont mind if I copy this setup?? i think it will help me move forward and get better.

I look at the pics everyday no exageration. Thanks again Wes. T

[WildWes]

I love the kit alot, one of my favorite features about this setup Wes is the ride cymbal position and the tom placement, very N.P. like. :)

I am trying to talk myself into this setup instead of the 3 plus 2 setup I currently use. You would think as muh as I adore the ride cymbal that I would naturally migrate to this natural position. Wes I hope you dont mind if I copy this setup?? i think it will help me move forward and get better.

I look at the pics everyday no exageration. Thanks again Wes. T

Thanks Jack and Tom. The tom and ride cymbal set-up was taken from NP's "Anatomy of a Drum Solo" dvd. That's why I created the red kit and tried to move away from it with the purple kit, but couldn't - hahaha. The Pintechs work well to the left over the hi-hat, as their shallow shell design allows for an overlapping stack design. As for NP, I can't figure out how a guy his age (older than me) turns on his throne to hit those drums to his left and right. Amazing talent. WW
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-music001.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

[System:Critical]

I had to jump in on the thread; great job WW! You might have persuaded me to hold on to my 6 Pintech Concertcast pads and refinish them, and maybe, just maybe, paint them a color other than green :) Did you do any particular prep to the metal before painting?

[WildWes]

S:C, here's a pictorial from plain to red to purple (the process will be posted in the next reply

Plain silver-vein Pintech drum with hardware removed and taped piezo foam/jack
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/inside-grey.jpg
First conversion to red metallic with clear coat
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/inside-red.jpg
Second conversion to purple sparkle with clear coat
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/Pintech12wrap.jpg

[WildWes]

S:C, my step by step paint process - hope it helps:

- Strip drum down to metal shell (do not remove the piezo/foam tower or jack).
- Tape piezo tower and jack with painters tape so it's easy to remove later.
- Sand metal shell with medium weight sandpaper to dull any finish sealant.
- Wipe entire shell down with a clean cloth or tack cloth.
- Plug input jack from exterior to prevent paint from coating the jack plug.
- I used a plastic wall anchor for this and it worked well.
- Spray shell several light coats with your choice of paint.
- Follow the paint instructions for applying subsequent coats of paint.
- The last coat of paint is when I sprinkled sparkles on my purple conversion.
- Spray a clear coat of your choice and sprinkle sparkles on this coat.
- You can lightly buff between clear coats with steelwool, but I didn't.
- Spray another clear coat and sprinkle sparkles on this coat.
- Spray as many clear coats and apply sparkles as you feel necessary.
- Spray as many clear coats without sparkles as you feel necessary to seal the drum.
- Allow at least one day for the clear coat to dry (I allowed two days).
- Remove all tape and assemble hardware.
- Remember, even with the clear coats this finish is not indestructable. They will chip if abused, so treat them like a fine finish on a set of DW's.

Everything I used was purchased from Wal-Mart
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/glitter-all.jpg
Three-pak of colored purple sparkles - I used all three on mine
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/glitter-purple.jpg
Combination pak of sparkles - I used a little of the silver on mine
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/glitter-assorted.jpg

[TAKnipe]

I think we should take the tutorial of the original pintech to red and to Purple sparkle and save it as a sticky. Thanks again Wes for your contribution, this is an awesome kit. Tom :)

[System:Critical]

Thanks, WW. You have just created more work for me :)

[WildWes]

Hehehehehehe, it's what I do S:C

[sam(otacon28)]

Very nicely done Wes , Love the addition of the custom painted Pintech pads to the kit too :cool:


sam(otacon28)

[WildWes]

Thanks again Sam. I initially looked into double-sided drums where the Pintechs are, but it was difficult to stack them due to the depth and I already had the Pintechs. It was fun trying to match them to the purple sparkle. My last three acoustic kits (many years ago) were walnut colored, hence the earlier statment (on your other thread) that I wasn't partial to natural drums. Guess, I just needed some color on my drums to keep me interested in playing - lol.

Would love to hear a sample of you playing that kit. WW

[WildWes]

Recent changes to the "Purpetrator" include replacing all the purple sparkle wrapped drums with painted shells, 2-16" kicks with 22" kicks, 12"/14" toms with 12"/13" toms, 14" bronze glass glitter wrap snare with a 14" chrome snare and Pintech heads with Hart heads.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/PfrontSep2009.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/Pfront2Sep2009.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/PsideRSep2009.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/PsideFSep2009.jpg

[CaTaPulT]

WOW Wes.
The kit's amazing, I was seriously looking over the 2nd picture, the way you joined what looks like two chrome racks together in the middle, the clamps ans short tube that hold up your converted high tom and the way you setup the feet at the bottom is sheer genius. I also love the way you setup the two cymbal booms in the middle, almost touching each other, the kit looks so symmetrical and so well balanced, excellent work as always but this time, it's a real mind blower. I love your kit, beauty to the tenth power.
I can understand you ditching the wrap and re-doing those drums with your own method of painting and sparkling, it keeps the kit more uniform and consistent, excellent bit of craftsmanship! :)
Enjoy the kit Wes, she's a beaut! :)
Take care

Regards: >>>> Jack <<<<

[Axe_Grinder]

Looks fantastic! As always, nice job. :)

[alviswesley]

Wes, I didn't think the Perpetrator could be improved on but you proved me wrong. P2 is even better than P1. Awesome looking kit! Are you using the VH-11 HH? And where are your pcy-10's. Does everything trigger as great as it looks? Fantastic job! Alvis :)

[WildWes]

Thanks Jack, Ron and Alvis. I'm really liking this kit, but hope it's my last gasp of GAS.

If I answered some of your questions Alvis, the cat would be out of the bag.

Oh what the hell. The five PCY-10's are snuggling in their me space box, but with six PCY-150's on the kit, I'm not very trigger lonely - hahaha. I do have a VH-11, but I also have an RHH-135 too. The Pintech triggers response better with the TD-10exp than with the DTX II module, especially the two zone snare. While I really like the look of the white Hart mesh on the kit, I believe the thinner Pintech mesh respond better with the Pintech triggers.

Now if I can only figure out who the hell thought this months q-song (US Fusion) is in 4x4 time. This thing would have Neil Peart saying, "WTF". Hahahaha

[Scorch Whammin]

Recent changes to the "Purpetrator" include replacing all the purple sparkle wrapped drums with painted shells, 2-16" kicks with 22" kicks, 12"/14" toms with 12"/13" toms, 14" bronze glass glitter wrap snare with a 14" chrome snare and Pintech heads with Hart heads.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/PfrontSep2009.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/Pfront2Sep2009.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/PsideRSep2009.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/PsideFSep2009.jpg

Kit looks really nice!!!..Wes....esp. like those big bass drums!:).....

[WildWes]

Kit looks really nice!!!..Wes....esp. like those big bass drums!:).....

Hehehehehehe, yeah they do stand out Scott, although they look bigger than 22's to me. I did feel the 16's felt better and were quieter (no blastech mesh or mylar), but time and playing on these 22's should take care of that.

I'm sure someone is going to release something I don't need and will have to buy - hahaha. Wes

[dschrammie]

Now if I can only figure out who the hell thought this months q-song (US Fusion) is in 4x4 time. This thing would have Neil Peart saying, "WTF". Hahahaha

Well, I'm hearing it as a 4 beat w/triplet...so it could be a 4/4, but if written out, because of triplet feel and the general phrasing, I'd probably call it a 12/8.

Probably the most complicated part is the "break" that's clearly meant for soloing over...it starts on 1 in the first bar, but the second bar is on the & of 1...(actually there's a pick up into the break)....
so starting with the pick up, we have (accents in bold):
4 & a, 1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a, 1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a...
the next part is a little trickier, because now the accents are on the a's of 3 and 4:
1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a, 1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a...
repeat the first 2 bars:
1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a, 1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a...
and the final phrase:
1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a, 1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a...

So there ya go...that's my take on the solo break. Keep the hhat going on the beat and just straight triplets on the sticks and you'll find that it stays in the 4 beat time...the off-beat accents just have a tendency to make us try to displace a beat.

[WildWes]

Well, I'm hearing it as a 4 beat w/triplet...so it could be a 4/4, but if written out, because of triplet feel and the general phrasing, I'd probably call it a 12/8.

Probably the most complicated part is the "break" that's clearly meant for soloing over...it starts on 1 in the first bar, but the second bar is on the & of 1...(actually there's a pick up into the break)....
so starting with the pick up, we have (accents in bold):
4 & a, 1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a, 1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a...
the next part is a little trickier, because now the accents are on the a's of 3 and 4:
1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a, 1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a...
repeat the first 2 bars:
1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a, 1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a...
and the final phrase:
1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a, 1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a...

So there ya go...that's my take on the solo break. Keep the hhat going on the beat and just straight triplets on the sticks and you'll find that it stays in the 4 beat time...the off-beat accents just have a tendency to make us try to displace a beat.

Time to take a break from the death star dschrammie :-). Very informative, insightful and self-aware, but just clarify a few things for me. What's a triplet, bar, break, pick up, accent, &, a, and is there an alternative to a straight triplet that we should be aware of? Seriously D, you broke this tune down to where even I could understand what you were saying, except for the stuff I listed above - hahaha. I knew it wasn't a true 4/4 tune and I'm going to have a hard time keeping the hi-hat going when both of my feet are pushing bass drum pedals :-O. Well done D. WW

[CaTaPulT]

Now if I can only figure out who the hell thought this months q-song (US Fusion) is in 4x4 time. This thing would have Neil Peart saying, "WTF". Hahahaha

I hear you on this one Wes, man oh man I did not vote for this one, I've been trying to play to it and how do you say "Lost in space" and time and everything. LOL
So just to be a good sport, I'll totally butcher the song, post it and be done with it! LOL :D
Hmmmm, using the track recording tutorial I did, if I were to play to the IIs's BaconBalls, slow the tempo to 70, then clear the song track but keep the drum track and copy over US Fusion, maybe that would work? Nawwwww, US Fusion is so ucked up that even brilliant ideas like that won't work! HAHAHAHA! :D
Good luck with it Wes, I know I'll need all the luck I can get! :)
Take care

Regards: >>>> Jack <<<<

[CaTaPulT]

Well, I'm hearing it as a 4 beat w/triplet...so it could be a 4/4, but if written out, because of triplet feel and the general phrasing, I'd probably call it a 12/8.

Probably the most complicated part is the "break" that's clearly meant for soloing over...it starts on 1 in the first bar, but the second bar is on the & of 1...(actually there's a pick up into the break)....
so starting with the pick up, we have (accents in bold):
4 & a, 1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a, 1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a...
the next part is a little trickier, because now the accents are on the a's of 3 and 4:
1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a, 1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a...
repeat the first 2 bars:
1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a, 1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a...
and the final phrase:
1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a, 1 & a, 2 & a, 3 & a, 4 & a...

So there ya go...that's my take on the solo break. Keep the hhat going on the beat and just straight triplets on the sticks and you'll find that it stays in the 4 beat time...the off-beat accents just have a tendency to make us try to displace a beat.

Man.... when I saw all this code before reading the message, I thought it was the secret formula to the ever popular question......
How does nuclear fission work? LOL :D
After reading the message, I think the first question would have been easier! LOL :D
Thanks for trying to explain the song in drum language, I need drum language lessons I think. As far as US fusion is concerned, no amount of explaining will ever make me understand how that song (being 4/4) makes one feel he's way off beat when playing a simple 4/4 beat! HAHA :)
Take care

Regards: >>>> Jack <<<<

[WildWes]

Just picked-up this Hart Hammer and chrome arm on eBay tonight (Sam has 5 of them on his kit).
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/hammer.jpg

[sam(otacon28)]

Just picked-up this Hart Hammer and chrome arm on eBay tonight (Sam has 5 of them on his kit).
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/hammer.jpg



And now Wes has one on his ( well soon to be on it ) . :cool:


sam(otacon28)

Ps. you got me thinking about one of those Dauz dogbones now ( haha ) It never really ends does it :confused:

[WildWes]

Here's the Hart Hammer on my kit. Placed it between the middle tom and ride cymbal. I didn't use the nice adjustable arm that came with it, as it fit nicely on a Gibraltar clamp. This thing is built like a tank and triggers great on my DTXtreme II module.

Hmmmm, Yamaha, Roland, Pintech, Hart, Gibraltar and no sponsor like Sam has - hahahaha
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/HartHammer.jpg

[sam(otacon28)]

Looks great on your kit Wes , Glad to hear it works great with your DTXtreme II module too . My new riding toms arrive this tuesday and then I'll throw some updated pics up with the new add on's I've done recently :D


sam(otacon28)

[WildWes]

Looks great on your kit Wes , Glad to hear it works great with your DTXtreme II module too . My new riding toms arrive this tuesday and then I'll throw some updated pics up with the new add on's I've done recently :D sam(otacon28)

Thanks Sam and I'm looking forward to seeing your kit upgrade. WW

[dauzman]

Wes....I love this glitter. kit....Thanks for sharing how you did it..... Im gonna do some glitter samples on some of my plastic pad backings.... I will let you know how they come out....

[WildWes]

Wes....I love this glitter. kit....Thanks for sharing how you did it..... Im gonna do some glitter samples on some of my plastic pad backings.... I will let you know how they come out....

Thanks DM. Looking forward to seeing how your pads come out. WW

[alviswesley]

Hey, Wes. Some guy has got his hands on your Bonze glitter snare and is trying to sell it on ebay. The nerve of this guy thinking he can get away with this. I have my eye on him though. Oh yeah, P2 is looking great too. :)

[WildWes]

Hey, Wes. Some guy has got his hands on your Bonze glitter snare and is trying to sell it on ebay. The nerve of this guy thinking he can get away with this. I have my eye on him though. Oh yeah, P2 is looking great too. :)

And he can have it as long as he'll paypal me the funds - hahahaha. I'm kinda drum poor at the moment, as I still have all the purple wrap e-drums and the blue pearl fiberglass a-kit. I'll start listing them as soon as I get up the nerve :O

Thanks. I'm really enjoying the P2 set-up.

[alviswesley]

Wes, What's the deal with 4 piezos? I understand the head and rim but what do the two on the shell do? Just curious.

[WildWes]

Wes, What's the deal with 4 piezos? I understand the head and rim but what do the two on the shell do? Just curious.

It's like rows of sharks teeth Alvis. If one stops working, the other replaces it - hahaha

I purchased this snare already DIY'd. The seller claimed it was for a more consistent sound around the drum head, regardless of where you hit it. Kinda like the rim piezo on the AX14. It's not as sensitive on the opposite side of the shell with the one piezo, but what if they had two rim piezos on opposite ends? That's my story and no matter what you say, I'm sticking with it. Really.........

[alviswesley]

Ok, I see now. It's like an amp that goes up to 11. The more piezos it has the better it is. I'd go with 6 piezos if I built one. haha. :)

[TAKnipe]

The idea with multiple rim piezo's is that you can achieve a better more even triggering all the way around the rim.

If you did 4 at even intervals around the shell it would probably be even and I think a folks have shown that it does indeed work.

The kit is looking great Wes!! Wes is there any interest in doing a Hart multipad in a sparkle finish for me? I would ship the case to you for sparkling and then rebuild it here for its new application? Let me know if your interested??? :)

[WildWes]

Wes is there any interest in doing a Hart multipad in a sparkle finish for me? I would ship the case to you for sparkling and then rebuild it here for its new application? Let me know if your interested??? :)

Tom,

- What is the multipad case made of (plastic, wood, metal)?
- What base color do you want it to match (I need to find something already mixed)?
- What sparkle(s) do you want (one color, a mix or multiple variations of the same)?
- What clear finish do you want (satin, semi-gloss, gloss)?
- How partial to purple are you?
- How much money do you have in your bank account?

[WildWes]

My Purpetrator 1 shell kit (2-16" kicks, 2-14" fl toms, 1-12" tom, 1-14" chrome snare) has a new home in Myrtle Beach, SC.

The drums on a Roland rack with a TD-12 module.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/P-front.jpg
Those AX14's look familar Ron? Hahahaha
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/P-rear.jpg
This was my chrome AX14 that the new owner wrapped with matching purple.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/P-snare.jpg

[CaTaPulT]

OMG Wes??????
You sold something?
You really sold something?
I thought you kept everything kinda like a pack rat! LOL :D
I bet the new owner is tickled pink (er uh, purple) with the new drums. I know how much work you put into those babies so the new owner is getting nothing but the finest.
You know what that means uh?
You now have extra room in your house to buy more drum stuff! HAHAHA :)
Take care

Regards: >>>> Jack <<<<

[WildWes]

Yep! Posted it on v-site and sold it that night. He appears very happy with it and wants to order more purple wrap to match the kit. Now, I need to sell the blue Pearl fiberglass kit and I'll have lots of room - haha. WW

[WildWes]

Never ending story this GAS thing. 7 PCY-150's, 3 Hart Hammers over the floor toms, 4 PCY-10's up front, AlphaDrum under hi-hat. WW

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/PIITop2Dec2009.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/PIIFrontDec2009.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/PIIMountedTomsDec2009.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/PIISplashesDec2009.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/PIIStackedTomsDec2009.jpg

[Pink Led Rush]

Wow! Wes that is absolutely amazing! Now that I think about it I might think about tackling turning the cheap kit I got downstairs to an ekit as well. What's the best way about going about doing that? Roland or someone sell a package for most of that stuff. I know they sell the baskets, but not sure if that got something big enough for floor toms, bass drum, etc.

[WildWes]

Wow! Wes that is absolutely amazing! Now that I think about it I might think about tackling turning the cheap kit I got downstairs to an ekit as well. What's the best way about going about doing that? Roland or someone sell a package for most of that stuff. I know they sell the baskets, but not sure if that got something big enough for floor toms, bass drum, etc.

Thanks PLD. My drums all have a Pintech crossbar/piezo/foam kit, but there are cheaper ways to diy your A to E kit. I'm just lazy, so I buy the entire kit from them.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/snare-sideJune2009.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/PintechPartsJune2009.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/bass-pintechfull.jpg

[sam(otacon28)]

Wes,

I'm really diggin' the latest "GAS" induced layout of your kit brotha' ! Looks great and I like the way you ran those Pcy-10's run up front .


I'm still finishing up the cable management on my kit . Work has been occupying alot of my time . I did get a few new toys though . Traded some stuff that I wasn't using and got a new laptop . And also got an QS6 keyboard again :)



sam(otacon28)

[Scorch Whammin]

Wes...just gotta say your kit looks Awesome!....those big kicks really set it off nicely!......:)..OBTW almost forgot.....great cymbal layout!

[WildWes]

Wes,

I'm really diggin' the latest "GAS" induced layout of your kit brotha' ! Looks great and I like the way you ran those Pcy-10's run up front . I'm still finishing up the cable management on my kit . Work has been occupying alot of my time . I did get a few new toys though . Traded some stuff that I wasn't using and got a new laptop . And also got an QS6 keyboard again :) sam(otacon28)

Thanks Sam. That's quite a compliment coming from the mother of all monster kits owner - hahaha. Appreciate it. Are you going to use the laptop for recording or drum programs? Wes

Wes...just gotta say your kit looks Awesome!....those big kicks really set it off nicely!......:)..OBTW almost forgot.....great cymbal layout!

Thanks Scott. I'm really enjoying the more acoustic look of the kit, not to mention how much I like the Vex kits for the drum sounds. I've still got two PCY-10's not being used, but I couldn't figure out where to put them. Oh well, they'll just rest up for now :-) Wes

[CaTaPulT]

That has got to be the best looking kit on the planet Wes. Simply incredible job you did with it, many hours spent and now all those hours paid off! :)
Just curious, what is the strange looking (rubber?) pad you have over the left bassdrum and between the HH and snare on some of the pictures, never seen one of those before.
Now that kit is....... yep, I'm going to say it......
Slicker than goat cum on a doorknob! LOL :D
Take care

Regards: >>>> Jack <<<<

[WildWes]

That has got to be the best looking kit on the planet Wes. Simply incredible job you did with it, many hours spent and now all those hours paid off! :)
Just curious, what is the strange looking (rubber?) pad you have over the left bassdrum and between the HH and snare on some of the pictures, never seen one of those before.
Now that kit is....... yep, I'm going to say it...... Slicker than goat cum on a doorknob! LOL :D Take care Regards: >>>> Jack <<<<

That is the AlphaDog pad. Pretty simple construction by a guy on eBay. Piece of wood with a single piezo/jack, covered with what looks like mouse pad material, mounted on a cymbal stand. Really simple design, but it's what I was looking for in that space. I probably could have used a PCY-10 there, but was looking for more of a flat pad to use as a second snare. Wes

[Hellfire]

One word...WOW!

I don't know how you guys with these gigantic kits do it. Never mind the fact that I would have no clue on how to play something that large, but to have to haul that around to and from gigs would be a nightmare.

You guys are better drummers than I, that's for sure. Awesome kit Wes. Top notch (and love that color).

[WildWes]

One word...WOW!

I don't know how you guys with these gigantic kits do it. Never mind the fact that I would have no clue on how to play something that large, but to have to haul that around to and from gigs would be a nightmare. You guys are better drummers than I, that's for sure. Awesome kit Wes. Top notch (and love that color).

Thanks HF. I believe the key to living with these large kits is we don't move them - hahaha. Seriously, this is a hobby kit and I would never dream of tearing it down and setting it up and tearing down again for a gig. If I was gigging, I'd probably pick-up a DTXtreme III kit for that. WW

[CaTaPulT]

Agreed with Wes.
When I had my various incarnations of my large kits (WTF, WTF2, YamaDabbaDoozer), it would take me 2 hours to tear it down and roughly 8 to 10 hours to put back together so they were all permanent stay at home kits, more like a fantasy kit. Kind of like an old fart reliving his youth! LOL :D
Phil your comment about being great drummers is invalid, I've seen you drum (DM10 review) and you could drum circles around me on any kit, it's not a matter of being a good drummer, it was more the desire to have a large drum kit. Just cause a guy can afford a Ferrari, doesn't mean he knows how to drive it! LOL :)
Take care

Regards: >>>> Jack <<<<

[WildWes]

Agreed with Wes.
When I had my various incarnations of my large kits (WTF, WTF2, YamaDabbaDoozer), it would take me 2 hours to tear it down and roughly 8 to 10 hours to put back together so they were all permanent stay at home kits, more like a fantasy kit. Kind of like an old fart reliving his youth! LOL :D Phil your comment about being great drummers is invalid, I've seen you drum (DM10 review) and you could drum circles around me on any kit, it's not a matter of being a good drummer, it was more the desire to have a large drum kit. Just cause a guy can afford a Ferrari, doesn't mean he knows how to drive it! LOL :) Take care Regards: >>>> Jack <<<<

Agreed with Jack.

We can play (some) HF, but having huge kits only means we have good credit and no sense to not use it - hahahahaha. WW