Hi-Hats (VH-11 vs RHH-135)

[WildWes]

Since I currently own both, I thought I'd give my two cents on each (I know, nobody asked). I used the RHH-135 with a DTXtreme II/III modules and the VH-11 with a TD-10exp module. I'd probably not be able to detect any of these characteristics, if I didn't have both in my possession. Keep in mind, these are my observations/opinions and both are excellent hi-hats to own/play. Don't even get me started on the FD-7/CY-5 combo I purchased prior to the VH-11. Hahahahahahaha

- Both are about the same diameter and depth.
- The RHH-135 has a slightly lower register stick impact sound (thud instead of a click).
- The VH-11 seems to be a slightly stiffer pad than the RHH-135 pad.
- The RHH-135 seems to have a slightly softer impact rubber on top.
- The VH-11 has a separate larger controller which the controller cable plugs into.
- The RHH-135 has a separate smaller controller block, but both cables plug into the pad.
- Both have excellent response and feel.
- The VH-11 costs about $100-$150 more than the RHH-135 (ouch).

Hope this helps anyone sitting on the fence waiting to purchase one or the other. Just make sure it works with your specific module. WW

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/hi-hattop.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/hi-hatbottom.jpg

[Scorch Whammin]

Since I currently own both, I thought I'd give my two cents on each (I know, nobody asked). I used the RHH-135 with a DTXtreme II/III modules and the VH-11 with a TD-10exp module. I'd probably not be able to detect any of these characteristics, if I didn't have both in my possession. Keep in mind, these are my observations/opinions and both are excellent hi-hats to own/play. Don't even get me started on the FD-7/CY-5 combo I purchased prior to the VH-11. Hahahahahahaha

- Both are about the same diameter and depth.
- The RHH-135 has a slightly lower register stick impact sound (thud instead of a click).
- The VH-11 seems to be a slightly stiffer pad than the RHH-135 pad.
- The RHH-135 seems to have a slightly softer impact rubber on top.
- The VH-11 has a separate larger controller which the controller cable plugs into.
- The RHH-135 has a separate smaller controller block, but both cables plug into the pad.
- Both have excellent response and feel.
- The VH-11 costs about $100-$150 more than the RHH-135 (ouch).

Hope this helps anyone sitting on the fence waiting to purchase one or the other. Just make sure it works with your specific module. WW

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/hi-hattop.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/WildWes_2007/hi-hatbottom.jpg


You forgot the bit where you say the yamaha is so much nicer:)....wait I forgot you're a roland guy now:D...hahahaha.....just kidding....:D

[WildWes]

Scott,

We're like a Democrat who just switched to Republican Party or a Republican that just switched to the Democratic Party. We both have a new perspective on what is likeable.

Only the entry fee into the Roland Party cost a lot more to join than the Yamaha Party - hahahahahahahahahahaha

[Scorch Whammin]

Scott,

We're like a Democrat who just switched to Republican Party or a Republican that just switched to the Democratic Party. We both have a new perspective on what is likeable.

Only the entry fee into the Roland Party cost a lot more to join than the Yamaha Party - hahahahahahahahahahaha

So....what party does that make Roland?????:)....and Yamaha?....Gosh.......I hope I'm not a democrat now????:confused::eek:....hahahaha

[WildWes]

So....what party does that make Roland?????:)....and Yamaha?....Gosh.......I hope I'm not a democrat now????:confused::eek:....hahahaha

Simply an analogy. To assign a specific party to either brand would create a monster thread, I'd just soon not see happen. Once I finish my kit, it will have a Yamaha and a Roland module. Best of both worlds. WW

[CaTaPulT]

Hi Wes, great comparison between the two hihats, I had a VH-12 when I had my TD-20 kit and everything you said I have to agree with. The surface of the Roland hihat/cymbals is a different rubber than those of the Yamaha's. Seems the Roland ones have a little more plastic in the rubber maybe, they feel a little more plastic. Both hihats work very well however.
And yes, the price difference between the two brands is as you described "ouch" LOL :)
Take care

Regards: >>>> Jack <<<<

[Scorch Whammin]

Simply an analogy. To assign a specific party to either brand would create a monster thread, I'd just soon not see happen. Once I finish my kit, it will have a Yamaha and a Roland module. Best of both worlds. WW

Don't take my comments too seriously...:D...I was just wanting to have some fun (lighthearted) with your analogy and this thread....:)

[WildWes]

Don't take my comments too seriously...:D...I was just wanting to have some fun (lighthearted) with your analogy and this thread....:)

I didn't Scott. I just try to stay away from serious religious/political discussions in a drum forum, as I've seen some get way out of hand at other sites.

Afterall, we're here to talk about drums, drumming, drummers and each other - hahahaha. It's still all good Scott. WW

[TAKnipe]

Hi Wes, Thanks for the contribution. Thats was a great comparison. I guess we need to make a new designation for you. "Roving Contributor" or EDrum Product Editor. Thanks again, I am dding reputation points for the article. Tom:)

[WildWes]

Hi Wes, Thanks for the contribution. Thats was a great comparison. I guess we need to make a new designation for you. "Roving Contributor" or EDrum Product Editor. Thanks again, I am dding reputation points for the article. Tom:)


I always wanted a rep Tom. Thanks.

[dschrammie]

Here's additional info that I'd ask for that may help the fence dwellers a little more:

- Both are about the same diameter and depth.
Any idea what those dimensions are, approximately?

- The RHH-135 has a slightly lower register stick impact sound (thud instead of a click).
So by "lower" you mean the frequency range of the impact sound...not necessarily the perceived "loudness"? Does the "click" sound of the Roland make it seem to you like it's louder, acoustically?

- The VH-11 seems to be a slightly stiffer pad than the RHH-135 pad.
In your opinion, is that a good thing or a bad thing? Does the stiffness (or lack of for the Yam) give a feel one way or the other of a real hihat?

- The RHH-135 seems to have a slightly softer impact rubber on top.
Would you say it would be similar to the difference between the soft side and hard side of a Real Feel practice pad? Or is the difference not that extreme?

- The VH-11 has a separate larger controller which the controller cable plugs into.
- The RHH-135 has a separate smaller controller block, but both cables plug into the pad.
Does the controller have any impact on your overall opinion of each? Is there a convenience factor of one or the other? Does the controller affect the overall look/aesthetic?

- Both have excellent response and feel.
Does one or the other have a better/more realistic feel from just the foot/pedal action?

I realize many of these are completely subjective, but I am curious none the less.

[WildWes]

For you fence sitters. If you own a newer Roland module, buy the VH-11. If you own a newer Yamaha module, buy the RHH-135.

Tom, please delete all my rep points so I don't need to answer each of his questions. Thanks. WW

[CaTaPulT]

For you fence sitters. If you own a newer Roland module, buy the VH-11. If you own a newer Yamaha module, buy the RHH-135.

Tom, please delete all my rep points so I don't need to answer each of his questions. Thanks. WW

LOL :D
Take care

Regards: >>>> Jack <<<<

[WildWes]

LOL :D
Take care. Regards: >>>> Jack <<<<

Jack, it's all about caring and spreading some love around http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-love008.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[CaTaPulT]

Jack, it's all about caring and spreading some love around http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-love008.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Yeah Wes and saving the finger tips from having to type so much! LOL :)
Hey, that's my excuse and I'm sticking with it! LOL :)
Take care

Regards: >>>> Jack <<<<

[Scorch Whammin]

I do have to say...I like the softer feel of the yamaha a little better than the roland...a little easier on the hands.....:)

[WildWes]

Previous discussion/viewpoint/opinion:

http://edrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=593

[evil1rox]

You'd think being a veteran.. I'd have used the search..

-Thanks Wes! Very helpful!!

E

[ghostman]

Has anyone compared the PinTech 1300HHC RYC VisuLite to these?

https://www.pintechworld.com/shop/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=150

[BobbyMck2]

Can we not compare an Afro-American, catholic, democrat to a Caucasian, protestant, republican... Let's see you sitting on that fence :) ..... BTW I'm kidding.......

Just before anyone gets their PC knickers in a twist :)

[evil1rox]

Just before anyone gets their PC knickers in a twist :)

My Knickers have been twisted since 1987.

E