Hart Pro snare-poor sensitivity

[Smoulders]

Hey guys.

Very nice to meet you all and I look forward to getting geeky about edrums.

I am having an issue with my Hart Proffesional Snare (the chrome one). To be honest considering they hail it as the best electronic snare ever, I havn't been impressed since buying it several years ago.

The rim is pretty useless in that it takes great precision to trigger just the rim and not the snare as well.

Anyhoo, that isn't my main concern. Basically the sensitivity is not great. It's not as responsive as I think it should be and I wondered if anyone new of a way to improve it (the idea of being to use brushes as they claim is laughable). On top of that there are many times when a hit will just be completely missed out. It has got gradually worse over time. I know my module (DM Pro) inside out and have tried all combinations of settings. I really think it has to be to do with the cone of foam in the centre of the drum. Some one told me you could buy an extra foam cap to attach so it sits closer to the head, but I have not found anything.

If anyone has experienced this and come up with a solution I would love to hear!

I am based in the UK, but can order stuff from the states if needs be.

Many thanks for your time.

Smoulders

[TAKnipe]

Hi Smoulders, Welcome to EDF. The first question i would ask is the wiring the same for the DMPro and the Roland Modules? Did they provide you with settings for the DMpro.

I myself do not like metal e drums, i have had no luck with them and prefer wood. With that being said lets see if we can help you get this to work properly. Is the foam cylinder touching the head when the head is on and tight? If not then you need to increase the height of the foam if possible.

See if that works and then write back and we will go deeper into the drum. Again welcome to the forum, Tom K

[Hellfire]

Welcome to the forum Smoulders. I'm with Tom here. I would bet your Hart drum is wired for a Roland module. That is not going to work well with the DMPro. Your piezo elements should be wired the same way as in this picture (keep in mind that the Trigger I/O and DMPro use the same diagram):
http://edrumforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=227&stc=1&d=1252120436

I would bet that the head piezo on your hart is wired backwards. Once you correct the wiring, you should get better separation between the zones. I hope this helps. Let us know.

[Smoulders]

Oh my goodness!!

First of all thanks very much for getting back to me so quickly. I have never even considered the wiring of the drum and how it might be cofigured incorrectly (i'm really not a technical person) but you have really given me some hope by the fact you both clearly know what your talking about.

I know nothing about wiring and don't have the drum in front of me unitil early next week, but I clearly have something to go on now! I'm guessing I whip the head off, can access the to two Piezo's from there and then need to pull off the wires and re-solder as shown in diagram?

I may well badger you guys a bit more when I can try this if thats Ok, but i'l certainly have a go first.

Taknipe - I think you are right about the foam not touching the head. Can I glue/attach anything to the foam cylinder to get it to touch or is there a specific product for the job?

Many thanks indeed. There is a new spring in my step.

All the best

Smoulders

[willsud]

Just come across this forum (very smart :)) and this thread.

If it's any consolation smoulders I've also had a Hart HH snare here in the UK for about 5 years (I upgraded it as well I think from the original one) using a Roland TD-20 and I struggled to be happy with it until recently.

As you say the cross-stick would often trigger the rim-shot and if you increased the sensitivity so that you didn't have to be a tree-bender to get the 'meatier' snare sounds it created a real 'hot-spot' in the centre.

Whether it was the recent TD-20 expansion unit adding something or whether I just finally hit on the right combination of settings I can now get a reasonable cross-stick without triggering the rim-shot and a not too bad snare.

But it's taken 5 years of fiddling with the settings, so it may not all be to do with wiring.

Just thought I'd mention it.

Best of luck :)


Will