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hockeylifer
01-16-2010, 10:56 AM
Hello All:

I'm a drummer by hobby and not by profession, but I've been playing on-and-off since 1987. I'm 39 years old and while I wouldn't consider myself a beginner, I'm definitely not a Buddy Rich or (insert your favorite drummer).

At this point in my life I drum purely because it's fun as hell. In a way, drumming is like therapy to me. I can feel overworked because of my job; or overwhelmed thinking about future bills, for instance, or whatever. However, the minute the sticks are in my hands and my headphones are on--BOOM--I'm in a whole different space.

Now you can call that escapism or attach anything negative to it if you want, but it's all good. Drumming just makes me happier, and it makes me a better dad and husband; a better co-worker; a better neighbor and friend. Hell, the rest of the world could learn a lot from us drummers. They think most of us our crazy but we're actually just generally happy people and we're not afraid to show it. And (big generalization) we're egoless as far as musicians/artists go. We share information and show each other tips and tricks. Think guitarists do that?

Anyway, a little more about myself and then I can ask questions because I've introduced and shared "real" info/thoughts about myself.

Eighteen months ago my wife and I became parents for the first time. It's been amazing and a learning experience every second of the way--as I'm completely new to being around children of any age. Sitting behind the drum set with my son is such a magical experience because its a tradition (in one form or another) that goes back to the dawn of man. I'm just an average guy living an average life, but yet this connection that we all have as drummers to something primal that we can't even understand the depth of it.

I will close with this...early man (and women) used rocks and sticks as their drums--now we are using acoustic and electric drums--but the one thing that is constant is that we play because the power of drumming is healing, and its fun as hell.

Glad to meet everyone,

Thom

P.S. I own a Simmons e-kit which is simply not up to par and would welcome suggestions from anyone on buying a new kit. I'm spending between $1,000 to $3,500. I've gotten some good suggestions from the good folks on vdrums.com (forum), and look forward to learning and sharing on this board as well.

hockeylifer
01-16-2010, 11:02 AM
I should have also wrote before...glad to meet everyone and thank you all for contributing to this board so people like me who are new to e-drumming can make more informed buying decisions or get the most out of our gear.

Muchas Gracias!

Scorch Whammin
01-16-2010, 11:05 AM
Welcome hockeylifer!.....glad you're here....and quite the introduction!....if you looking to spend between $1000-$3500...I'd get the DTXtreme IIISP...in that price range it's the best bang for the buck..(it compares favorably to the more expensive td-20 IMO)...the rubber pads on it aren't that bad (they're actually really good rubber pads:))...and with the new firmware update (coming from Yamaha), the III module will be able to work with the new silicone pad technology yamaha just introduced...anyway glad you're here and good luck on your decision!

dauzman
01-16-2010, 11:28 AM
Thom,
Welcome to the group. Glad you made it... There will be a big difference in spending 1000.00 to 3500.00 .I would decide if using a computer as a module is in your cards. If not the Yamaha DTX3 would be my choice on a plug and play setup and you could probably find a great deal on one...

hockeylifer
01-16-2010, 01:41 PM
Thanks Gents! I appreciate the warm welcome and advice.

It's funny that you both mention the DTXtreme III SP because when I go to music stores to demo e-kits the sales staff pushes Roland; and the general consensus on e-drumming message boards seems to be that mesh pads are the way to go. I must really beat to a different drum because I'm thinking I like the feel of rubber pads better.
Am I alone on that? The mesh rebounds too well.

Ultimately, I may go with a Roland anyway because so many people clamor about them that there has to be some truth to their build-quality, etc.

Overall, my #1 priority is sound quality. I want to hear sounds that sound like real acoustic drums, and can approximate their playing as close as possible. If that means buying software and using a computer rig, so be it.

What do you guys think of the 2Box Drumit Five kit? Also, your pic of that new Pearl set is super nice. Is the kit sound good and have good features--in your opinion? That may be a consideration for me.

Scorch Whammin
01-16-2010, 02:06 PM
What do you guys think of the 2Box Drumit Five kit? Also, your pic of that new Pearl set is super nice. Is the kit sound good and have good features--in your opinion? That may be a consideration for me.

The 2box kit from what I've heard has great sounds!..may be hard to get in the states though...the reason I mentioned the DTXtreme IIISP is because in your price range nothing comes close IMO!...regarding yout statement: "your pic of Pearl set"...what pic?...are you referring to my avatar...if so, it's a DTXtreme I RHP kit.
Initial reviews at NAMM 2010 on the Pearl e-pro have not been very favorable..:)..so far.

dauzman
01-16-2010, 02:16 PM
The Yamaha DTXtreme IIISP is in a league above anything else in your price range. Best turnkey drum set by far most features at best price these days. Hands down winner...

by_tor
01-16-2010, 06:59 PM
Welcome,

And i dont have much advice since im a newb in this game so,,,, ;-)

CaTaPulT
01-17-2010, 12:43 AM
Hi Hockeylifer and welcome to this place.
Agreed with the other recommendations regarding the Yamaha DTXtreme III which is now being replaced with the new DTX-900 line (firmware will be available to update the III to 9oo features soon). The DTXtreme III Special (hex rack) can be had at a decent price right now as the kits left out there are being discounted to make way for the new kit with the silicone pads. The debate of Mesh vs rubber has been going on forever, it all boils down to personal preferences. Best bet is to find a music store which have each kit you are interested in with display models so you can try both so you can decide which feel you like better.
As for sounds, the DTXtreme III is probably the best sounding drum module out there using internal sounds, once you go to VST (connect to computer via midi) then things start sounding even better.
The DTXtreme III also has so many ways to shape the internal sounds using various effects that you can come up with pretty decent sounds internally.
I'm not trying to push the Yamaha product by any means, I've had a Roland TD-20 kit (Not the new one though) and I didn't care all that much for it. I sold it after 3 weeks of ownership and bought a DTXtreme III kit.
Good luck on your decision making, but do yourself a favor, try before you buy.
Take care

Regards: >>>> Jack <<<<

Guinness
01-17-2010, 04:06 AM
Alesis DM10!!!

Oh wait. I don't own one. What am I saying?? (but i want one!) ****, I don't even have a kit at the moment. I just read and watch videos of other people playing. Sad, yes I know. (I had the DM5, but returned it faster than it took me to set it up. DM10 will be my next purchase.)

Welcome to the forum. You'll find (found) some really good folks here, who are always willing to help (should a need arrise).

But, seriously, check out the DM10..... and save the rest of that cash for your kid's college fund. :)
Kids are expensive. Trust me, i have 3 of them buggers. :eek:

Guinness
01-17-2010, 04:08 AM
Oh and of course the crew at vdrums say get "Roland". They are all roland heads. :P "Roland is the best" ... and if you have the money, they may be right.

I don't mean to diss anyone at vdrums. Good guys! Just VERY pro-Roland. :)

dauzman
01-17-2010, 09:05 AM
Roland is the biggest but them being the best is very questionable . They have spent the most money at controlling this market but as far as I can see the only thing they have is the mesh heads and alot of over priced hype. IMO..

EDrum Pro
01-17-2010, 03:09 PM
Ok I'll say my peace. As some of you know I have been in the retail end of the business for 35 years. The truth of the matter is the longevity factory is the question. Both company's Roland and Yamaha make great product. But its replaced consistently and your suck between a rock and a hard place. Going Computer based is by far the best solution for EDrummers. I myself being an Apple beta tester for Logic Studio, I use a Apple computer. You can buy a power house computer for $900.00 in there Reconditioned section. Same warranty as new, I myself buy there all the time and never a problem!!! And trust me its plug and play. If I were you I can be reached at s100midi@optonline.net contact me. As you must have seen on the forum Alternate Mode has the DITI coming out as a TMI that should be the center of your kit along with a MAC and some Dauz's Acoulike shelled Pad. And what drum software you pick or if you go hardware based but I wouldn't. And your experience will be amazing!!! Trust this old goat!!!! Thanks for reading my post God Bless!! Rich...